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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025_January_24
January 24
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Neo-Nazi propaganda
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Neo-Nazi propaganda to Category:Neo-Nazi publications
- Nominator's rationale: I don't know what is supposed to go in here vs say, the parent category neo-Nazi publications, and the category does not make it clear. The Category:Nazi propaganda, which this is clearly modeled off of, contains wartime propaganda, which makes sense. Given how neo-Nazis operate all of their publications can be understood as propaganda so I am unsure as what the difference between these two categories is supposed to be. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:46, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Actors of European descent in Indian films
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Actors of European descent in Indian films to Category:Expatriate actors in India
- Propose merging Category:European actresses in India to Category:Expatriate actresses in India
- Nominator's rationale: There's no need to isolate actresses of European decent from other expatriate accesses SMasonGarrison 02:33, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- This is more complicated than it initially seems. Category:Actors of European descent in Indian films also contains non-expatriate actors, e.g. Tom Alter. And in addition there is a third category that should be included in the nomination, Category:Actresses of European descent in Indian films. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:20, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
- Yes I don't quite get the rationale, Indian-born actors with (recent/full or part) European ancestry are obviously very different from "expatriate actors" (born outside India and active there). Metamentalist (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Actresses of European descent in Indian films; thoughts on Marcocapelle's points would be appreciated :)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- @Smasongarrison: maybe just purge non-expatriate actors and then move on as proposed? As for the third category, this presumably would become? - see below. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 15 January 2025 (UTC)
- Propose purging and merging Category:Actresses of European descent in Indian films to Category:Expatriate actresses in India
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's updated proposal?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:17, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Elements of fiction
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Elements of fiction to Category:Fictional elements
- Nominator's rationale: The new name I'm moving to has previously been deleted. However this category only is for things that are fictional and there are also 5 subcategories that already use "Fictional elements" instead, so why use this name instead? QuantumFoam66 (talk) 21:02, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Recipients of the IUPAP Early Career Scientist Prize
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Minor early-career award, not lead-worthy, not defining. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:38, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Defunct WikiProjects
[edit]Propose deleting the following categories:
- Category:WikiProject Human–Computer Interaction participants
- Category:WikiProject Human Genetic History participants
- Category:WikiProject Homeopathy participants
- Category:WikiProject Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy participants
- Category:WikiProject Green Politics participants
- Category:WikiProject G.I. Joe participants
- Category:Breakfast task force participants
- Category:Bacon task force participants
- Category:WikiProject Floorball participants
- Category:WikiProject Editing trends participants
- Category:WikiProject Demographics participants
- Category:WikiProject Rufus Wainwright participants
- Category:WikiProject Reforming Wikipedia participants
- Category:WikiProject Red Link Recovery participants
- Category:WikiProject Prince Edward Island participants
- Category:WikiProject Plan 9 participants
- Category:WikiProject Pirate Politics participants
- Category:WikiProject Phasmatodea participants
- Category:WikiProject Parapsychology participants
- Category:WikiProject Wikipedia Outreach Participants
- Category:His Dark Materials task force participants
- Category:WikiProject NATO participants
- Category:WikiProject National Health Service participants
- Category:WikiProject Munich participants
- Category:WikiProject Mass spectrometry participants
- Category:WikiProject Ladakh participants
- Category:WikiProject Kollam participants
- Category:WikiProject Kollam will become a C2F, so delete it too
- Category:WikiProject Kingdom of Naples participants
- Category:WikiProject Karachi participants
- Category:WikiProject Kabbalah participants
- Category:WikiProject James Bond participants
- Category:WikiProject Inna participants
- Category:WikiProject Washington University in St. Louis participants
- Category:WikiProject University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill participants
- Category:WikiProject University of Houston participants
- Category:WikiProject University of Connecticut participants
- Category:WikiProject University of Connecticut will become a C2F, so delete it too
- Category:WikiProject SUNY participants
- Category:WikiProject Polytechnic University of the Philippines participants
- Category:WikiProject NCSU participants
- Category:WikiProject MTSU participants
- Category:WikiProject Homeschooling participants
- Category:WikiProject Cornell University participants
- Category:WikiProject Woodworking participants
- Category:WikiProject RNA participants
- Category:Wikipedia for World Heritage participants
- Category:WikiProject villages in Bangladesh
- Category:WikiProject University of Florida participants
- Category:WikiProject University of Central Florida participants
- Category:WikiProject UK Trams participants
- Category:WikiProject Timeline Tracer participants
- Category:WikiProject Theology participants
- Category:ITC productions task force participants
- Category:Idols task force participants
- Category:WikiProject TCR Series participants
- Category:WikiProject Taoism participants
- Category:WikiProject Seventh-day Adventist Church participants
- Category:WikiProject Saskatchewan communities and neighbourhoods participants
- Category:WikiProject_Seamounts_participants
- Category:WikiProject Erie participants
- Category:Galápagos Islands task force participants
- Category:WikiProject Dominica participants
- Category:WikiProject Djibouti participants
- Category:WikiProject Daman and Diu participants
- Category:WikiProject Comoros participants
- Category:WikiProject Colombia participants
- Category:WikiProject Chandigarh participants
- Category:WikiProject Birmingham participants
- Category:WikiProject Americas participants
- Category:WikiProject Albemarle County participants
- Category:WikiProject Frisia participants
- Category:WikiProject Guernsey participants
- Category:WikiProject Guinea-Bissau participants
- Category:WikiProject Liberia participants
- Category:WikiProject Liechtenstein participants
- Category:WikiProject Lowell, Massachusetts participants
- Category:WikiProject Mali participants
- Category:WikiProject Meghalaya participants
- Category:WikiProject Mesoamerica participants
- Category:WikiProject Monaco participants
- Category:WikiProject Nagaland participants
- Category:WikiProject Niue participants
- Category:WikiProject Normandy participants
- Category:WikiProject North Dakota participants
- Category:WikiProject Panama participants
- Category:WikiProject Puducherry participants
- Category:WikiProject River Thames participants
- Category:WikiProject Western Asia participants
- Category:WikiProject Vatican City participants
- Category:WikiProject Vanuatu participants
- Category:WikiProject Houston participants
- Category:WikiProject Dallas-Fort Worth participants
- Category:WikiProject Tampa participants
- Category:WikiProject Syracuse, New York participants
- Category:WikiProject Solomon Islands participants
- Category:WikiProject San Marino participants
- Category:WikiProject AfroMuzik participants
- Category:WikiProject Björk participants
- Category:WikiProject Black Metal participants
- Category:WikiProject Crowded House participants
- Category:WikiProject Evanescence participants
- Category:WikiProject Frank Zappa participants
- Category:WikiProject HIM participants
- Category:WikiProject Motörhead participants
- Category:WikiProject Queen participants
- Category:WikiProject Rave participants
- Category:WikiProject Selena Gomez participants
- Category:WikiProject The Clash participants
- Category:WikiProject The KLF participants
- Category:Wikipedia:Personal acquaintances users
Various "participants" categories for defunct WikiProjects. Delete per prior precedent. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:24, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Categories tagged and authors notified where still active. It was funny that it turns out one of these was created by myself - I have no memory of doing so, and will let it go through the seven-day discussion with the others rather than G7-ing. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:57, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Question What happened to the WikiProjects? All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:52, 24 January 2025 (UTC).
- They were marked as defunct (in Category:Defunct WikiProjects). * Pppery * it has begun... 21:59, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:San Marino work group
[edit]- Propose merging Category:San Marino work group to Category:WikiProject San Marino
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:24, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Liechtenstein work group
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Liechtenstein work group to Category:WWikiProject Liechtenstein
- Nominator's rationale: Duplicate. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:24, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Dominican
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Dominican victims of crime (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Dominican murder victims (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Assassinated Dominican people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Dominican military personnel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Assassinated Dominican military personnel (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Nest of ambiguously-named categories containing a grand total of two pages. * Pppery * it has begun... 18:16, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Works about economies by country
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: delete, I was planning to propose renaming from "works" to "books" per actual category content, but the subcategories are already directly in Category:Economics books and one of them is nominated below, so this category does not add much value at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:05, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Books about the economy of the United Kingdom
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. No objection to recreation of the category when some more articles are available. The only article is about economic history, hence the history targets. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:The Joe Rogan Experience guests
[edit]- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 16:54, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Convert Category:The Joe Rogan Experience guests to article List of guests on The Joe Rogan Experience
- Nominator's rationale: The category as applied fails WP:CATDEF in most cases. Someone appearing on The Joe Rogan Experience is not defined by that appearance; it's just one of many talk shows that they attended one time. The category should be listified. Binksternet (talk) 04:29, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete - I actually came here because I felt the category should be proposed for deletion. In the realm of over-categorization, this category violates the Performers_by_production characteristic. Kingturtle = (talk) 06:15, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete: Per @Kingturtle's rationale above. Rift (talk) 06:39, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. I have some doubt on whether it is worth listifying but do not entirely object it. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:27, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Strong delete. Blatantly contravenes WP:PERFCAT. There's no need for a list article, this seems like WP:LISTCRUFT to me. --woodensuperman 11:40, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Convert - Yeah, I wanted to make a list but couldn't be bothered so just tossed some random people into a category. It's clearly not category defining but I think a list page would be valid enough. Kline1992 (talk) 15:18, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- I guess we can count this as WP:CSD#G7 then. --woodensuperman 15:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per Woodensuperman, WP:PERFCAT does not need to become WP:LISTCRUFT. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:35, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
Category:Anime and Cartoon television
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: What even is this category supposed to be? Do I even have to explain why it's so bad? QuantumFoam66 (talk) 03:28, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename - judging by the pages in the category it appears that it is supposed to be for television channels that broadcast anime and cartoons, but that's not obvious at all by the current name. I do think that such a category could be useful though. I don't have any ideas for a new name, so I'm open to ideas, but it should make it clear what the scope is. ArtemisiaGentileschiFan (talk) 06:23, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per ArtemisiaGentileschiFan. We can probably just add "channels" to the title, so Category:Anime and cartoon television channels (with a small c in cartoon). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:34, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Free conventions
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Free conventions to Category:Free goods and services
- Nominator's rationale: Redudant category layer. The only child category is Free festivals SMasonGarrison 03:09, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:35, 24 January 2025 (UTC)
Category:Hazardous air pollutants
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Propose renaming analogous to Category:Persistent organic pollutants under the Convention on Long-Range Transboundary Air Pollution and Category:Persistent organic pollutants under the Stockholm Convention. Other renamings were considered (albeit not advocated for: "I can't think of a way to rename the category to make it make sense. (Regulated Hazardous air pollutants)?? (USEPA Hazardous air pollutants)??") on the talk page all the way back in 2007. Preimage (talk) 00:06, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Pinging @A876 (original talk page poster) in case you want to weigh in here. Preimage (talk) 00:14, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, too US-centric. The list suffices. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:31, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete? Not seeing opposition to the rename if kept.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:44, 16 January 2025 (UTC)- Oppose. too US-centric. a very small number of editors might get very excited about initiating new categories for their own countries of residence and/or interest, and then the community would be impeded by dozens of very new and very fragmented categories for this. Sm8900 (talk) 02:22, 17 January 2025 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:13, 24 January 2025 (UTC)